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Engin Akyürek: The Man of Romantic Roles

There is one thing that both the Turkish and the foreign audience are certain of about Turkish actor Engin Akyürek is that he is one of the best actors in Turkey. Therefore, Engin Akyürek’s biography is a wondered by his fans. What’s more, he is probably the most wanted actor for the romantic roles as he proved his talent as the “romantic man figure”.

Kara Para Aşk (Black Money Love) was Engin Akyürek's second major television project
Kara Para Aşk (Black Money Love) was Engin Akyürek’s second major television project

Well, the Turkish actor Engin Akyürek’s popularity also goes beyond the borders of Turkey! Just like his contemporaries such as Can Yaman, Kıvanç Tatlıtuğ, and Kenan İmirzalıoğlu, Engin Akyürek is also one of Turkey’s international faces. But what makes him so precious is that he has such a great heart and he is not a pompous person at all! He has the ability to write, he is a philanthropist, and he has a very simple life…

Akyürek is also an accomplished writer
Akyürek is also an accomplished writer

So, enough is enough! Let’s get to take a closer look at the Turkish actor Akyürek’s bio…

Turkish Actor Engin Akyürek: Who is This Romantic Hero of Turkish Dramas?

Yes! Engin Akyürek is a true hero when it comes to romantic Turkish TV series and dramas. Well, Engin Akyürek was born on the 12th of October 1981 in Ankara. The popular actor graduated from Ankara University, in the Department of History.

Engin Akyürek was born on the 12th of October 1981 in Ankara
Engin Akyürek was born on the 12th of October 1981 in Ankara

Surprisingly, the actor didn’t have any acting lessons till finishing the university. Notwithstanding being trained in acting, he wanted to prove his natural talent. So, he decided to attend the acting contest named Türkiye’nin Yıldızları (The Stars of Turkey). There, Beren Saat was also an attendant. At the end of this content, he performed well and was awarded the best actor whereas Beren Saat became the best actress.

The popular actor graduated from Ankara University, in the Department of History
The popular actor graduated from Ankara University, in the Department of History

Keep Tracing Engin Akyürek’s Bio: The Rising Career 

After the Türkiye’nin Yıldızları (Stars of Turkey) contest, his journey started with a supporting role in the series of Yabancı Damat (The Foreign Groom). In this series, the actor starred as Kadir, an obsessive lover living in Turkey’s southeastern city of Gaziantep. The TV series became popular in Greece as well, reflecting the warm Turkish-European relations at that time. The show began in 2004 and made its finale in 2007. The actor also starred in other TV series such as Karayılan (Black Snake, as Nizipli), and Bir Bulut Olsam (If I Was A Cloud, as Mustafa).

Engin Akyürek is a Libra person
Engin Akyürek is a Libra person

In this TV drama, the Turkish actor received his first leading role. His outstanding portrayal of the role drew attention to the series. Well, in the TV series Bir Bulut Olsam (If I Was a Cloud), written by Meral Okay and directed by Ulaş Inanc, Akyürek played Mustafa Bulut, a male crazy crank lover.

Engin Akyürek is interested in scuba diving
Engin Akyürek is interested in scuba diving

What Makes “Yabancı Damat” (The Foreign Groom) So Precious?

Well, there are several reasons to explain why Yabanci Damat (The Foreign Groom) became so precious and popular back then. First of all, the series was Engin Akyürek’s debut TV serial. Secondly, the series is the first Turkish television series broadcast in Greece. (When we think about the historically political unrest between the two states, it would make sense!)

Engin Akyürek's journey started with a supporting role in the series of Yabancı Damat (The Foreign Groom)
Engin Akyürek’s journey started with a supporting role in the series of Yabancı Damat (The Foreign Groom)

Yabanci Damat (The Foreign Groom) is the first major export success of the Turkish dramas ever. Well, the series was about a Greek man’s love for a Turkish woman. In this regard, the series, which was aired between 2004-2007, played a significant role in Turkey-Greece’s amicable relations in its time.

Engin Akyürek loves drinking tea
Engin Akyürek loves drinking tea

“Karayılan” (Blacksnake)

Following that, the Turkish actor Akyürek displayed the character of Nizipli Halim in the TV series Karayilan (Blacksnake) in 2007 and 2008, a narrative set in Gaziantep during the French occupation. The Turkish TV drama had the second-highest budget for TV Series in Turkey until that period.

Engin Akyürek won the best actor award at Seoul International Drama Awards (2015)
Engin Akyürek won the best actor award at Seoul International Drama Awards (2015)

Another Big Hit of the Turkish Actor Engin Akyürek

Then, the actor got another leading role in the famous series Fatmagül’ün Suçu Ne? (What is Fatmagül’s Fault?, aka Fatmagül). In this series, between 2010 – 2012, the actor shared the leading role with Beren SaatThe series became a great hit between 2010 and 2012 for the entire 80 episodes. And it enlarged Engin Akyürek’s popularity even more.

Especially in the Middle East and the Eastern Europe, Engin Akyürek has millions of fans
Especially in the Middle East and Eastern Europe, Engin Akyürek has millions of fans

Fatmagül’ün Suçu Ne? (What’s Fatmagul Fault?) was a 2010-make TV series. The series was about societal concerns surrounding a rape victim. The Turkish actor Engin Akyürek starred as Kerim Ilgaz, the male lead. Ece Yörenç and Melek Gençolu wrote the original concept for the Turkish author Vedat Türkali’s novel “Fatmagul’ün Suçu Ne?” for TV drama. Well, as for the producer, Kerem Atay took on the job.

Once Engin Akyürek in New York
Once Engin Akyürek in New York

Engin Akyürek’s acting in this series earned him numerous prizes, and Akyürek became one of Turkey’s most recognized actors. He became one of the most well-known and well-liked Turkish performers throughout the Middle East and Latin America as a result of this performance.

Greatest Boom of the Turkish Actor Engin Akyürek: “Kara Para Aşk” (Black Money Love)

Kara Para Aşk” (Black Money Love) was Engin Akyürek’s second major television project. This series also has had great success in both Turkey and the Middle East. In this series, Akyürek was starring along with Tuba Büyüküstün and they had a perfect harmony together on TV. The drama series came to an end in July 2015. As we said, the series received an amazing success both in Turkey and abroad. Thus, the duo has become one of the most unforgettable and adored TV couples with a great number of fans all over the world.

The actor is interested in sports
The actor is interested in sports

With Ömer’s character in Kara Para Aşk (Black Money Love) in 2014, the Turkish actor Engin Akyürek won the best actor award at Seoul International Drama Awards (2015). Furthermore, he was nominated for the International Emmy Award in the Best Actor category.

He is also a Shell and Disney+ Türkiye Brand Ambassador.

“Bir Küçük Eylül Meselesi” (A Small September Affair)

Engin Akyürek did not restrict himself to the television industry and he starred in the romantic drama movie Bir Küçük Eylül Meselesi (A Small September Affair) with Farah Zeynep Abdullah. The movie and Engin Akyürek had good critics. It was a 2014-make movie and now streaming on Netflix.

The movie took place in Turkey’s one of the internationally most popular touristic spots Bozcaada. Well, Eylül (played by Farah Zeynep Abdullah) has everything she wants in life. She is a beautiful, cheerful, and funny woman. Until she forgot her last month after an accident.

The popular actor loves spending time alone
The popular actor loves spending time alone

Although everyone around her, all her friends and family tell her that there is no problem, Eylül suspects that something is wrong. Completely unconscious, she is forced to go to Bozcaada just by following her instincts, where she accidentally encounters a strange man (played by Engin Akyürek) she has never met. This mysterious stranger confidently tells Eylul that she should remember himself, that he is the man she fell in love with.

The 2014-make Turkish romantic drama has 7.1 out of 10 on IMDb.

2018 and Later in the Turkish Actor Engin Akyürek’s Career

The following projects for Engin Akyürek were films, the first of which was Cocuklar Sana Emanet (Children Entrusted to You). The release date of the film was March 23, 2018. Çağan Irmak wrote and directed the film, Şükrü Avşar, on the other hand, was the producer of the film.

Whether or not the actor has someone in his life is unknown
Whether or not the actor has someone in his life is unknown

In 2019, Engin Akyürek’s next film was Bir Aşk İki Hayat (One Love, Two Lives). Ay Yapım produced the film, and Burcu Görgün Toptaş and Özlem Yılmaz were the screenwriters. As for the director of the film, Ali Bilgin was sitting in the director’s seat. The film was released on February 13, 2019, and it was an adaptation of a Greek film.

From December 2019 until May 2021, Akyürek returned to television with his series Sefirin Kızı (The Ambassador’s Daughter). The series, written by Nehir Erdem and Ayşe Ferda Erylmaz and directed by Emre Kabakuşak, was a joint production of O3 Medya and NGM and aired on Star TV.

Turkish actor Engin Akyürek's popularity also goes beyond the borders of Turkey
Turkish actor Engin Akyürek’s popularity also goes beyond the borders of Turkey

The Turkish actor Engin Akyürek co-starred with İrem Helvacıoğlu in the Disney+ series Kaçış (Escape) in 2022.

Movies and TV Series Starring Engin Akyürek

So far, the Turkish actor Engin Akyürek has exposed a very impressive career. As you can see below, the actor has appeared in so many thriving projects and furthermore, the actor has brought into the life numerous iconic and unforgettable characters. Well, here is the complete list of all the TV series, dramas, films, and plays that which Engin Akyürek has taken part in…

Film

  • Kader (Destiny) — 2006 – as Cevat – Supporting Role
  • Bir Küçük Eylül Meselesi (A Small September Affair) — 2014 – as Tekin Bulut (Tek)- Lead Role
  • Çocuklar Sana Emanet (Children are Entrusted to You) — 2018 – as Kerem – Lead Role
  • Bir Aşk İki Hayat (One Love Two Lives) — 2019 – as Umut – Lead Role
  • Godspeed (Yolun Açık Olsun) — 2022 – as Captain Salih Çetin – Lead Role
The Turkish drama Kaçış (Escape) consists of 10 episodes
The Turkish drama Kaçış (Escape) consists of 10 episodes

TV Series & Dramas

  • Yabancı Damat (The Foreign Groom) — 2004–2007 – as Kadir Sadıkoğlu – Supporting Role
  • Karayilan (Blacksnake) — 2007–2008 – as Nizipli Halim – Supporting Role
  • Bir Bulut Olsam (If I Was a Cloud) – 2008–2009 – as Mustafa Bulut – Lead Role
  • Fatmagül’ün Suçu Ne? (What is Fatmagul’s Fault, aka Fatmagul) — 2010–2012 – as Kerim Ilgaz – Lead Role
  • Kara Para Aşk (Black Money Love) — 2014–2015 – as Ömer Demir – Lead Role
  • Ölene Kadar (Eternal) — 2017 – as Dağhan Soysür – Lead Role
  • Sefirin Kızı (The Ambassador’s Daughter) — 2019–2021 – as Sancar Efeoğlu – Lead Role
  • Mahkum (Prisoner) — 2022 – as Mehmet – Guest Role
  • Kaçış (Escape) — 2022 – as Mehmet – Lead Role

Theatre

  • Romantika Muzikali (Romantica Musical) — 2007 – as Ceto – Lead Role
Turkish actor Tolga Sarıtaş is a close friend of Akyürek
Turkish actor Tolga Sarıtaş is a close friend of Akyürek

Awards and Nominations

  • 2006 — Film Writers Association Awards – Promising Actor – Kader (Destiny) – Won
  • 2007 — ÇASOD Acting Awards – Promising Actor – Won
  • 2011 — Kadir Has University Most Special Names of the Year – Most Special TV Actor – Fatmagül’ün Suçu Ne? (What’s Fatmagul’s Fault, also known as Fatmagul) – Won
  • 2011 — TelevizyonDizisi.com The Best Awards – Best Actor – Won
  • 2012 — AyakliGazete.com Television Stars of the Year – Best Drama Actor –
  • 2012 — WonTelevizyonDizisi.com The Best Awards – Best Actor – Won
  • 2014 — TelevizyonDizisi.com The Best Awards – Best Actor – Kara Para Aşk (Black Money Love) – Won
  • 2015 — Uludağ University 10th Marconi Awards – Best TV Actor – Won
  • 2015 — Seoul International Drama Awards – Best Actor – Won
  • In 2015 — International Emmy Awards – Best Actor – Nominated
  • 2015 — 4th Crystal Mouth Awards – Best Actor – Won
  • 2017 — 44th Golden Butterfly Awards – Miracle Makers – Won
  • 2017 — Peru Latina Turkish Awards – Best Actor – Won
  • 2019 — 24th Sadri Alışık Awards – Ayhan Işık Special Award – Won
  • 2020 — 3rd International İzmir Film Festival – Best Actor – Sefirin Kızı (The Ambassador’s Daughter) – Won

A Storybook from Engin Akyürek: Sessizlik (Silence)

In addition to his talent in acting, the Turkish actor Engin Akyürek also proved himself as a writer. In 2018, Engin Akyürek published his first storybook named “Sessizlik” (Silence). But more importantly, he donated the whole revenue of the book to the Darüşşafaka Association. The meaning of the word Darüşşafa is “home of compassion” in Ottoman Turkish. It refers to Darüşşafaka Association, a Turkish educational association founded to train apprentices.

In 2018, Engin Akyürek published his first storybook named Sessizlik (Silence)
In 2018, Engin Akyürek published his first storybook named Sessizlik (Silence)

Well, as for the book, Sessizlik (Silence) comprises 21 short stories that the actor and author Engin Akyürek wrote between 2015-2018.


 

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The First Step to Writing from Turkish Actor Engin Akyürek: “Sessizlik” (Silence)

 


TV Commercial with Shell

The Turkish actor Engin Akyürek has long been the commercial face of the world-famous petroleum company Shell (Turkey). So, the actor, who is the trademark of the company, has made more than 3 million Turkish liras from the commercial.

The Turkish actor Engin Akyürek has long been the commercial face of the world-famous petroleum company Shell (Turkey)
The Turkish actor Engin Akyürek has long been the commercial face of the world-famous petroleum company Shell (Turkey)

So, in addition to Shell Turkey, the Turkish actor Engin Akyürek is also a trademark for Disney+, which has recently made its Turkey launch.

Engin Akyürek is on Disney+ with Kacis – Escape

The new trailer and character posters of Disney+’s original Turkish series Kaçış (Escape), produced by O3 Medya and Same Film, written by Engin Akyürek, written by Ali Doğançay, and directed by Yağız Alp Akaydın, has become biggest entertainment news before the year ended.

Engin Akyürek as Mehmet in Kaçış (Escape)
Engin Akyürek as Mehmet in Kaçış (Escape)

So, the story of the series revolves around Mehmet (played by Engin Akyürek), a war photographer, and a group of journalists from several nations. They begin conducting research in an Ezidi village. The party surreptitiously crossed the border in the series. However, a radical terrorist group captures the journalists as a consequence of a raid. Thus, the dramas, changes, and escape tales are then narrated in an exhilarating manner.

Kaçış (Escape)
Kaçış (Escape)

An Assertive Entrance from Disney+ to the Turkish Market

The series will present the research team’s difficult struggle to get rid of and the human drama in the Middle East from a different perspective. So, Kaçış (Escape) has been in front of the audience since June 14.

Kaçış (Escape) started broadcasting on June 14, 2022
Kaçış (Escape) started broadcasting on June 14, 2022

Where does Engin Akyürek Live?

The Turkish actor Akyürek lives in the Anatolian side of Istanbul. His friends and surroundings live there too, and he doesn’t go to the European side unless he has a business to accomplish. The actor does his personal work that he can’t do due to the lack of time when he is working.

The Turkish actor Akyürek lives in the Anatolian side of Istanbul
The Turkish actor Akyürek lives in the Anatolian side of Istanbul

What he likes to do the most are spending time with himself, being alone, and going somewhere and reading a book.

Engin Akyürek selected as the Most Handsome Man in the World

The successful Turkish actor Engin Akyürek has been maintaining to grow his popularity in the world. In 2021, the Turkish actor Akyürek had been chosen for the list of The Most Elegant Men survey.

The series Kaçış (Escape) will present the research team's difficult struggle to get rid of
The series Kaçış (Escape) will present the research team’s difficult struggle to get rid of

Lastly, the actor was chosen as the Most Handsome Man by surpassing world-famous names such as Johnny Depp and Adam Lambert. It was the world-famous fashion site “Be Global Fashion Network” that made the selection.

Private Life of the Turkish Actor Engin Akyürek

Being such a handsome man is not easy in Turkey, there will always be gossip about private life. So, the Turkish actor Engin Akyürek is so successful to keep his special life strictly “private” that we have almost no certain information about his dates. However, it was claimed that the actor dated Cansu Taşkın in 2011. Another gossip about him is that he dated Tuvana Türkay in 2014.

Engin Akyürek and Cansu Taşkın
Engin Akyürek and Cansu Taşkın

When we turn the calendar’s pages to 2020, we see a new allegation regarding the private life of Engin Akyürek. So, it has been claimed that the famous Turkish actor Engin Akyürek has been in a relationship with his co-actor Tülin Yazkan. The two acted together in “Sefirin Kızı” (The Ambassador’s Daughter), the popular Turkish TV drama.

Engin Akyürek and Tülin Yazkan
Engin Akyürek and Tülin Yazkan

According to the allegation, fans of the two saw them while they were wandering in Istanbul’s Taksim hand-to-hand.

The actor had also been together with the actress Bestemsu Özdemir and the world-famous Turkish actress Cansu Dere.

The beautiful Turkish actress Cansu Dere
The beautiful Turkish actress Cansu Dere

Is Engin Akyürek Marrying?

The Turkish hasn’t been on the screen for a long time. Yet, he has always succeeded to be on the agenda anyways. This time, the actor’s name came to the fore with a marriage allegation. According to the rumors, the Turkish actor Engin Akyürek has been together with someone whom he met in Ankara and he keeps her name secret. However, as it is said, the actor is very happy with his mysterious lover and the two are on the eve of marriage.

Turkish actor Engin Akyürek and Tuvana Türkay
Turkish actor Engin Akyürek and Tuvana Türkay

However, the actor has not made a statement yet in this regard.

Physical Appearance of the Turkish Actor Engin Akyürek

As for the outlooking of the actor, the first thing to notice about him is that he has quite a characteristic face with shape and a great personality as well, in addition to his impressive out looking. So, the actor is 41 years old and he is 1.87 meters tall, and 83 kilograms, his eye color is black. As for his zodiac sign, Engin Akyürek is a Libra person.

The actor is 41 years old and he is 1.87 meters tall, and 83 kilograms
The actor is 41 years old and he is 1.87 meters tall, and 83 kilograms

Incredible Resemblance Between Engin Akyürek and His Brother

The famous and handsome Turkish actor Engin Akyürek, who draws attention with his successful career and takes care not to come to the fore with his private life, draws attention with his incredible resemblance to his brother Eren Akyürek.

Engin Akyürek and Eren Akyürek
Engin Akyürek and Eren Akyürek

Engin Akyürek made quite a name for himself with the character of Sancar Efe, which he played in the series Sefirin Kızı (The Ambassador’s Daughter). And later, it was claimed that he had a love affair with Pınar Deniz, an actress like himself, in his private life. Engin Akyürek became famous in South American countries as well as in Turkey.

Those who saw the actor and his brother were shocked by the similarity between the two.

The Turkish Actor Engin Akyürek on Social Media

The accomplished Turkish actor is a popular account holder on social media! The handsome actor has more than 744K followers on Instagram. Moreover, he has only 49 posts on Instagram, which mean that even though he has very few posts on Instagram, he still has a great deal of follower number. Until the last year, the actor didn’t have an official account on Instagram.

The handsome actor has more than 744K followers on Instagram
The handsome actor has more than 744K followers on Instagram

Akyürek shared his first Instagram post on March 21, 2021, and as soon as he shared a picture with a cat saying “Ben Geldim!” (I Came!), the picture received tens of thousands of likes!

Well, as for Twitter, as far as we know, the Turkish actor Engin Akyürek does not have an official account.

The first Instagram post of the Turkish actor Engin Akyürek
The first Instagram post of the Turkish actor Engin Akyürek

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57 Comments

  1. I really liked engin akyurek, he’s my favourite star. wish him all the n keep d good work up. waiting more eager for his serials

  2. Engin é um excelente ator estou adorando o trabalho na novela fatmagul .
    Eu queria um marido assim será que ele é assim de verdade ou é só sonho ???
    Um grande abraço bem vindos ao sucesso Brasileiro ….

    22/08/2015
    Elaine

  3. toda minha familia curte fatimaglu essa novela e de mais curto demais os atores estou no face do meu filho adoro engin akyuerk acho ele lindo tomare que ele venha ao brasil aqui na bahia tambem

  4. estou no face do meu filho para lhe desejar um feliz aniversario sei que vc faz aniversario hoje dia 12 de outubro engin akyuerk um grande abraco e um grande beijo de sua querida fan brasileira agueda sou de salvador bahia beijo na sua familia que vem em primeiro lugar ok sempre que vc for dormi elembre que tem uma fan no brasil quer dizer muitas fans que te adora que deus lhe der muitas saude para vc realizar todos seus objetivos e sonhos beijos vc estar demais em fatima gul beijos continue assim agueda como vc e vc e demais

  5. oi gato estar aqui na minha casa minhas amigas que sao sua fas todas te amamos vc e tudo de bom vc e muito lindo vc e demais no brasil nos te curte muito beijo de sua fas

  6. I’ve never bored to watch his drama series kara para ask, his act so naturally, good looking, handsome, love his eyes and smile….from your big fan Indonesia..

  7. At the first I shaw him on television I love his eyes and smile , his gesture to treat the kids so lovely,becoming a good daddy someday

  8. Wau wonderful I love tuba a lot engin too Allah add you 2 more yrs in this earth can you come up with another new series plzzzzzzz I am frm KENYA

  9. First I know him in black money&love,after that I love him.
    I wish for him long life!!!

  10. engine u r my favorite …am from somalia .i like the way u act ,,,the way u express ur real feeling
    go ahead ,,,waiting more n new n more interesting serials…by the way kara para ask
    was the best …..thanks alot

  11. Dear Engin…. You are such an amazing and handsome man !! I love watching your serials. I love you so much and hope to meet you sometime in life !!! Wish you all success in all the ways !! Lots of love from INDIA !!!!!

  12. U r so handsome and a great actor.I love to see u in fatmagul.I m from India.

  13. Engin Akyurek is a phenomenon in Pakistan he is most loved Turkish Actor there. bless you and may you have alot of success inshallah! ameen

  14. Hi , engin ur eyes r smiling &really love u r acting in fatmagul .hope to watch more of your serials.gud luck!!I I am from india…

  15. Engine is the handsome attractive man in this world.i feel it.i can not compare fatmagul with Bollywood.this is the best screen plays which I watched in my life.now this serial end in zindegi channel.but every beautiful moments of this serial now In my mind.i never meet Kerim,never see him..but I love him.i m floating and floating in a sea which is kerim..god bless you.i loved the whole team of fatmagul.i m from Assam.

  16. Engin you are a strong actor i just know you through black money love but i hope you have alot to show the world keep on entertain and matter of fact i love your style is cool your best man loooking forward for new project budy cant wait to see you in another movie sometimes i feel like its real thing in black money love then i realize that its a movie too late oooh budy you rock#team Engin

  17. His acting skills are exceptionally phenomenal. He is too good to write or say something about him. He has proven his skills time and again through the successful projects that were on air at different time. Wish him all the best in his life.

  18. Engin u r so handsome n so talented I m from gaya bihar(india) ur role in fatmagul is really very inspiring but I must say that my husband is just as u r in the serial. I have two small kids. First is a girl 6 years old n second is a boy ho 3years old n he follows u. All d best for your next movie n shows. Please reply so ur fan like me encourage n keep sending Msg bye

  19. Engin Ayurek is by far the best actor of these times. He masters each roll and manages to personalize it in a unique way. He enjoys what he does and it shows in an extremely professional manner. He knows how to communicate even when not speaking. His every move and facial expression tells you what he is trying to transmit beyond words.
    I enjoyed Fatmagul, Kara para ask and Olene Kadar. All exceptional productions. However, in my humble opinion, Engin’s roll in Kara para ask was outstanding. The chemistry between him and Tuba was incredible. It made me really believe they actually really loved each other and it wasn’t a portrayal. It was masterful. Keep up the great work! Looking forward to seeing more of your work here in the United States as well as hoping to get a hold of your book ” sessizlik” in either the English or Spanish version so I can enjoy your other talent as a story writer. Best of Luck, God Bless you.

  20. When was he born? Not sure if what you say a the beginning is correct
    I thought it was October….

  21. Hi Casey Clarke! Thanks for correcting us and sorry for the mistake. It is October, not September.

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